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Index : Publications : Articles : 2003 Articles : Quarter 1 : 01/12

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 Articles about life @ Vineyard Boise
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Freedom and the Freemans
 

An Interview with Mike Freeman


[Inside the Vineyard] What was it that first brought you to Vineyard Boise?

[Mike Freeman] We had quite literally just stepped away from full time pastoral ministry when we first came to the Vineyard in October of 1997. LaWayne and I had pastored in a very “straight-laced” Evangelical denomination for nearly 17 years. We had been greatly blessed by many people and in many ways, but there had been a growing yearning for a whole lot more of the Lord than we were experiencing.

Since we moved to Boise to pastor a church here in 1989, a stirring had been growing within us to see some of the rhetoric I had so often repeated about our church being “the church you can read about in the Bible” translated into real life. The contrast in what I saw in myself and in our church and what I saw as I read through the gospels and Acts became increasingly difficult to dodge. I saw this in areas of worship, fellowship, outreach, benevolence, and in personal, daily holiness. So I challenged myself and our congregation – not always as gracefully as I should have – to break new ground and really do what we see Jesus doing in the pages of the gospel, no matter where that takes us.

Over the summer of 1997 it became very clear that we were changing, but the church was not. We felt new wine about ready to burst within us, but seemingly no new wineskins to put it in! So we determined before the Lord that we would leave pastoral ministry and the church I had known since coming to the Lord in 1975 (and that LaWayne’s family had been in for three generations) at the end of September, 1997. To me it was a lot like Abraham laying Isaac on the altar; I had to lay it down on the altar and then see what new thing God would do. And, also like Abraham, we went out not knowing where we were going.

We visited two other churches in town and walked away sensing no call to either place. LaWayne and I both sensed there was a bit too much deja-vu. Then, just our second Sunday out of the ministry, we came to the Vineyard to visit some friends from our old church who had been attending at Vineyard Boise for about three months. We had no intention of doing anything but visiting. And so in we came…

How would you describe that first visit?

As we pulled into the parking lot, our main concern was that it wouldn’t be too “weird.” But stepping into the sanctuary, whether audibly or not I don’t know, but I said a deep, “Wooooow.” You see, most of the sanctuary at that time was tables and chairs – something that in itself shouted for the first time in my heart the word that has come to summarize what we have found here: “Freedom!”

Our kids saw people eating muffins on those tables, and they shouted another word: “Food!”  And for many weeks, the Vineyard was the “Muffin church” to them!

So we entered in, sat at a table (actually, two tables, there being seven of us), and then worship began. Another deep, “Wooooow! This was how I had been worshipping in secret for at least the past three years. “But what would the message be like?”, I thought. Great sanctuary, awesome worship, muffins…but what if some “crackpot” is in the pulpit? Tri gets up. He’s in the second week of a series on the Ten Commandments – although I’m pretty sure he just ended up teaching seven of them…

Two words characterized what I saw in and heard from him that morning, and what I’ve heard and seen consistently since: Authenticity and grace. A third and final, “Wooooow!” And I knew that morning we were home.

Your background was more from the evangelical camp but your whole family sure gets into the worship time. They seem to have naturally responded to the freedom of the Spirit here.

Yes, but remember, we were sneaking out for years and going to Promise Keepers and worship events at Calvary Chapel and other places. And once you get turned on to real worship with the whole heart, worship to God, not just about Him, that’s it, it’s all over. So God had prepared our hearts and wooed us to Himself for some time.

It still doesn’t diminish the amazement and gratitude I feel every time I pause to watch my kids worshipping – especially at some youth functions here we’ve sat in on. When I see them dance, or wave flags, or pogo, or just sway with eye’s closed, or see them singing in the new Vineyard choir and know that I’m not making them do that – they’re actually encountering the Living God here – it just blows me away! I feel that our being here is God’s gift to them. He’s given them a real heritage of freedom to enjoy and to pass on. Freedom to be everything that God has made them to be…

People have really enjoyed when you have acted out different characters of the Bible. How did you get started doing this?

Okay, first of all, it was never my idea to act out anything. A few years back, Amy Kusin was needing someone to help with the Christmas party for all of the adopted families, and she asked if I would do something. LaWayne suggested telling the Christmas story as Joseph, wearing a biblical costume she had recently made for me. Okay, I thought, it’s just a few people and then it will all be over. But Tri’s mom, Joan Robinson was there when I did it and suggested to Tri that I do the same thing during the main service.

I did not take drama in high school, and I can’t act worth beans. So doing the same thing before the whole church was very uncomfortable and very weird. But it seemed to go over well. I thought that was that. But then when Tri was teaching through Romans, the thought struck me of coming out as Paul and just preaching a few chapters of Romans. That I could get into, and I did. It was and is a blast.

Who is your favorite character and why?

So far I’ve been Joseph, Paul, Peter, and James. I like to say that I am getting a bad case of “multiple biblical personality syndrome.” As for my favorite character, it’s a toss-up between Paul and James, both for the same reason: they both resonate an all-out passion for Jesus and the good news of authentic Christianity that really touch the strings of my heart.

You have been blessed (and worked hard) to memorize lots of scripture. How has this benefited your life?

Memorizing scripture is just what I did as a young Christian teen who was hungry. I read the Bible intensively in those early years (say from age 15 through 19) – I’m talking about an average of 16 chapters a day, going through the entire New Testament roughly once a month. Not that that qualifies me for “sainthood” – it’s just I had no social life, and I was hungry!

I started memorizing individual verses, then paragraphs, then a short chapter, with no definite plan or method in mind. Then, in the early 80’s after I had started pastoring, I thought, “Wouldn’t it be cool to memorize a whole book? Then I could take it with me anywhere, anytime!” I started with James, then went on to 1 John, and then started working through Paul’s letters. It was just a personal “discipline” – though saying it was a discipline is like saying I discipline myself to eat freshly baked doughnuts! I was hungry! While I’m not consuming at the same pace as my younger years, the appetite is still there and I’m naturally drawn to it. Few things bring greater joy than to converse with the Lord through the words of Paul and James and John and Peter!

Any memorization techniques you would like to share?

Use the same Bible; say it out loud; and do it little and do it often. “Little,” in that you need to take it in bite sized pieces (usually one complete thought at a time). “Often,” in that you need to space it out over time. To repeat a verse 50 times in one sitting really serves as only one imprint on your mind. Say it aloud. Go away and do something else, then recall it or read it aloud again, say fifteen minutes later, and keep repeating that process through the day. Turn your radio off when you’re driving, and fill that time with meditation (speaking the Word aloud to yourself and to the Lord). Meditate when you’re doing the dishes, when you’re in the shower, walking the dog, etc. Pray it, sing it, rap it (you’ve never really heard Romans until you try to rap it – and no, I won’t ever attempt that in public – another blessing for which you may be very thankful!). Have fun with it. Also recognize that I’ve been on a specific, somewhat eccentric “diet” of memorization that not everyone is called to. But if the calling and hunger is there, the grace will be there to follow through!

You and LaWayne have one son and four daughters. Do you and your son Brandon ever feel ganged up on?

Periodically. And it doesn’t help that most of our family pets have been female too. This is not the family we planned! But as usual, God’s plans work out a whole lot better than our wildest dreams.

 


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